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Post by Braddoc on Sept 11, 2008 18:58:09 GMT -5
Heh..Standard of professionalism he says..well, I'll take this as a compliment, but I'm far form 'pro' granted, I've been here what, about 2 years now, I GM and play in other games elsewhere, but I'm far form being pro..more like, well...on it's way than actually being there.
Getting players 'sucked in' a game fast a good way for them to get into the action, but the major we are suffering right now is the actual lack of games: there's Room5 and Room6. Both you and wolf got 2 different ways of running a game. Wolf is more 'traditional' as in we take a step forth, but wait for him to make that leap. Yours anyone can leap up the story and do what they want (to some degree mind you). So the choices of game is somewhat limited, whether they play 'traditional' or 'free form'.
Sure we got the UGR, but it seems there's not alot of willingness to write a storyline and don't get karma or whatever at the end (Even if frankly, you can get anything you want if you write it in: Look at Meg; started with nothing and now got a corp going..granted no karma, just lots of work.)
So yeah, Who dares win and such...but a few GMs here and there would not be refused quickly.
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Post by Pelch Gobwit on Sept 11, 2008 20:00:31 GMT -5
Pelch, IMAO "How many different ways is there to run a game like this? (snicker) The reason we don't have a lot of games is the same reason we don't have a lot of dedicated players. Let me put it this way, how many GM's want to be full time babysitters and comedian's to a thankless mob that does nothing to earn any sense of consideration? Krass recently handled a query he got this way and I saw a lot of truth in it:
Message to Krass: "Krass you ain't as funny as you used to be. Your routine is old and boring. You used to be funny but now your not even worth hunting up."
Krass, laughs, "You ignorant, arrogant, pathetic ball-less wonder. What makes you think I'm gaming just to amuse some cry baby like you? Why don't you stand up and let some air into your mush like, marshmallow brain because you've been sitting on them TOO long? Now let me explain the facts of life to you, drekhead."
"First there are only so many jokes and plays on situations you can do on anything. It's finite. It took us better than ten years to do all the funny stuff we've done. How many comedy TV shows last that long with professional writers? We didn't do it for you, we SHARED it with you. You ain't paying me to amuse you or I'd be as mega-rich as Ronilion by now. Why you're just a farking leech of my talent because you haven't got brain cell one that even puts you in the class of licking even Luddington's hoop. What's that say about you when our so-called resident idiot's been funnier than a pissant like you? We call him moron so what's that make you on the scale of intelligence since you haven't done anything anyone knows you for?"
"Idiots like you have two reasons for saying crap like this. You want to one up and shotgun somebody who has done it and is more successful to inflate your own fragile ego, or your so thoughtless and stupid that you think you have the right to do it. Pelch said something recently that really struck a chord with all the Retro's. I'll ad-lib "Sure you have the right to an opinion, what irritates us is you feel you have the right to tell us what that opinion is.' Guess what, with comments like you made, why don't you just go molest yourself with lawn tools. We don't want or care for your criticisms. We didn't do what we did for you. You don't like us go away and amuse yourself with Kleenex and hand-lotion or your dog. You want to say a thank you for the moments of memory or amusement we provided then that we'll accept. You see we really don't CARE DIDDLY about you for anything else."
"Clue number two. NO ONE is funny or amusing all the time. If all you got out of this was some fun, then you got more than you paid for. You might have noticed that there are some very interesting situations and life lessons out there as well in all the things we did. In short, we a group of people gamed together, shared some good times, viewpoints, commentary, and insights and had some really good memories of it. That's what made it worth while and nothing else. However, NOTHING LASTS FOREVER and I didn't sign on to amuse you for eternity. Not that I want to anyway. Go play with yourself and don't read the warning label."
"Finally, no one finds the same things amusing, you brainless turd. Humor is subjective. So I'll say to you what we usually tell ignorant butt heads like you .... before you criticize me show me what you've done that makes you such an authority on anything. If you can't do that? Then FARK OFF and go pester someone who cares. I don't have time for idiots like you."
"That's Krass, no fragging tact at all but he is right."
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Post by Braddoc on Sept 11, 2008 20:10:40 GMT -5
Huh..He is yeah, he does prove a point using colourflul language.
But..I suppose you can see it as such; if the players keep playing and showing up then they actually care about what you're doing more than let's say One-Post Joe that comes around and does..well..one post every odd month.
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Post by The Great Krass on Sept 12, 2008 14:05:19 GMT -5
Actually they took out the really nasty parts. I think the idiot went away in tears. Krass retains his title as the # 1 cyber bully because I wouldn't let a dickless moron tell me how I have to run my life to suit his low intelligence level. You ought to see me when I really cut loose. Then again, maybe not."
Next?
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Post by The Great Krass on Sept 12, 2008 14:16:57 GMT -5
"By the way, I went looking in Gobwit's room to see if he had decided to relent and take another ration of drek. I found this poseted in the latest Soapbox.
"On a related magical note though. Players who were in room six but did not close themselves out of this game and then joined another? You really SHOULD take the time to close yourselves out of here real soon. "
"Looks like the the dwarves are getting ready to rebel. He may be getting ready to close out his game, permanently, but one of his rules as I understand it is he does not leave things hanging. I wonder if he's planning to kill everyone left in there. Might be fun hanging around to see how he does it. Hey Pelch, want to hire Eon to make sure they all bite it? Quote me a price."
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Post by Fatman on Sept 16, 2008 0:22:19 GMT -5
Maybe Pelch, before you throw out the baby with the bathwater you might consider this:
The Paradoxical Commandments by Dr. Kent M. Keith
People are illogical, unreasonable, and self-centered. Love them anyway.
If you do good, people will accuse you of selfish ulterior motives. Do good anyway.
If you are successful, you will win false friends and true enemies. Succeed anyway.
The good you do today will be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway.
Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.
The biggest men and women with the biggest ideas can be shot down by the smallest men and women with the smallest minds. Think big anyway.
People favor underdogs but follow only top dogs. Fight for a few underdogs anyway.
What you spend years building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway.
People really need help but may attack you if you do help them. Help people anyway.
Give the world the best you have and you'll get kicked in the teeth. Give the world the best you have anyway.
Sometimes, in anything you do, it appearers to be a thankless, hopeless task. I have watched your recent struggle but that doesn't mean you didn't do some good. Even your friends can disappoint you making you seem alone. Especially when your ill. While it might seem reasonable to give it up as a bad task, I have to ask is that really what you want to do? Now if you are physically unable to go on, that's one thing. You fought a good fight. However if your condition is more a mental fatigue then I suggest you step back, recharge a bit and then pursue it again. Your choice.
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Post by wolflet59 on Sept 16, 2008 7:37:09 GMT -5
Or he is making sure that there are few if any loose ends a-dangling.
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Post by The Great Krass on Sept 16, 2008 14:39:36 GMT -5
Krass, "Hey Wolflet59. What the frag does that comment MEAN? Now check this, I'm not looking at it as you making a knowing insult but to me it sure comes across that way. Maybe I just don't get what you think you mean. It must be because you're a darn 'furriner'. Why should shorty care if loose ends dangle? If he just wants to walk away will it be any skin off his hoop?"
"From what I saw, Fatman seems to be trying to get Ol'Pelchy to reconsider before he commits. He's 'Devil's Advocate' as usual because he wants Pelch to take time and SERIOUSLY consider what his loss to you guys would mean not just to you folks BUT for Pelch's sake. Fatty may be looking after you guys a bit here but he also looks after Pelch as well, it's what we do! That's in case you didn't understand the Fatboy's previous message. He's always doing that to us when we have to make those NASTY LIFE decisions. Sometimes Fatboy is even correct and this time, we (Retros, most of us following this anyway) think he is."
"As half pint stated, making a decision on drugs can make for poor decisions. Why the frag do they always make those pills pastel colored unless your really bad and then they're fire engine red? I guess I should ask Patterson that. Anyway, I would say that doing as many as I do drugs can make you do some really stupid things. Don't believe me? Try it. Since all us Retros understand that fact and Pelch obvious is aware that it may be tampering with his logic, maybe... just maybe... he is giving you guys the chance, to show him he's wrong and that he's working his way down the wrong road, mentally speaking. OR maybe he is looking for some encouragement from people he thought were is MATES? Now check me if I'm wrong, but to ME it looks like you're encouraging him to go. Maybe Fur Face was right when he said that some people were trying to force others to leave. Is that what you mean? Goodbye and Good Riddance OR...."
"Are you saying, 'we know that you're a sickie and getting close to toasting in the fires of hell for your various sins and out of loyalty and care maybe it is best you just walk away clean no hard feelings?' At least that's frank and honest as the Fatguy pointed out. I know it's hard for you Brits to show emotion even to those icebergs you call woman, still they thaw with the right temperature setting and sufficient lies, but why not spell it out a bit for us unsubtle Yanks? Since Peachy is one of yours maybe he already understands? Clue us 'Mericans' so we know for sure what you mean."
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Post by wolflet59 on Sept 17, 2008 7:44:41 GMT -5
"By the way, I went looking in Gobwit's room to see if he had decided to relent and take another ration of drek. I found this poseted in the latest Soapbox.
"On a related magical note though. Players who were in room six but did not close themselves out of this game and then joined another? You really SHOULD take the time to close yourselves out of here real soon. "
I attempted to make a point that he is asking people to make sure that characters are committed to game 6 and not 'keeping their options open ' and straddling across different games.
- I think his room 6 stuff is fab and he has been missed..
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Post by The Great Krass on Sept 20, 2008 23:56:56 GMT -5
"Fair Enough."
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Post by The Great Krass on Oct 8, 2008 5:58:18 GMT -5
OOC: Krass, "Hey Fatguy, what's your latest take on the so called 'financial crisis'?"
OOC: Fatman, "One of the things that my generation is lacking is a great storyline about the suffering and sacrifice we have had to endure as a group. Until now, the best we we had to offer was a sob story about how our controller broke just as we were sitting down to go on line with XBox Live and play Call of Duty IV: Modern Warfare. I, for one, can’t wait to regale the grandkids with tales of walking to and from where I used to work before my company was downsized, uphill, both ways, in a blinding Depression with no shoes. I look upon this as a golden opportunity to pass along another fine tradition."
OOC: Eon, "Fatman, you are just WEIRD."
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Post by The Great Krass on Oct 8, 2008 6:07:23 GMT -5
Drassel: "Hey Krass, why does everyone say conservatives are so stupid?"
Fatman: interrupts, "Because if they were brilliant, they would then be called “liberals.”
Krass: laughs, "That's even better than my answer. Why argue with genius. "
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Post by the Great Krass on Oct 27, 2008 6:48:43 GMT -5
Ex-Mayor Devlin Krass, under fire for labeling his constituents in down town Seattle as “racists” and “rednecks” during interviews with Seattle media outlets this week, told reporters today that, "While I inadvertently used words like ‘racist’ and ‘redneck,’ I really meant that most of the morons here in Seattle are toothless, cousin-humping mongoloids."
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Post by Ronilion on Oct 28, 2008 23:37:50 GMT -5
Top 15 Strangest Real Beer Names
1. Arrogant Bastard 2. Flying Dog In Heat Wheat 3. Moose Drool 4. SantaÂ’s Butt Porter 5. Fiddler's Elbow 6. Old Speckled Hen 7. Dogfish Head Snowblower Ale 8. Sick Duck 9. Homo Erectus 10. Seriously Bad Elf 11. Shaftebury 420 Brilliant Lager 12. Bad Frog 13. Hell for Certain 14. Flying Dog Horn Dog Barley Wine 15. Big Butt
"If you've had any of these? You might be in my league."
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Post by The Great Krass on Oct 29, 2008 14:32:00 GMT -5
"Of course we've been talking politics. As usual the Fatman sent us his opinion on it all."
It was not so long ago as I recall it that I was in my old beat up car traveling home. I hadn’t seen my wife and kids for a while; we all know work can be like that. Sometimes each day is just nasty and tough and you have to run faster and work harder to survive.
On the way home, I passed a shoe store. It advertised in large letters and colorful signs with the promise of the fine shoes now available, at insanely low cost, for everyone. If the signs were to be believed, why they would just solve all the problems that have infested mankind for ages! Now who under those circumstances would not look, with some distrust at the grandiose claims, if they needed a set of new shoes?
Children often need new shoes as most of us know and shoes are usually very expensive especially at the back to school time. Children do grow so fast. As for my wife? She collects shoes as if it was a hobby. I guess most woman do because it seems to me that woman pick out shoes to go with a specific outfit or a certain style and they usually wear that style so seldom as to insure that a pair of shoes will be around for the next ice age or so.
We get to me, as a man, I usually have two pairs of shoes. One set for work, which is somewhat dressy but comfortable. I also wear a set of shoes completely out before I go buy more. Why buy shoes now that sits their gathering dust? They may not fit me later when I really need them In my arrogant opinion, when you spend so much time on your feet trying to earn a paycheck, especially at my size and age, a man just naturally tends to gravitate to comfort over look or style.
The other set is a pair of work sneakers that I use when painting, resurfacing driveway, plumbing, mowing lawns, cleaning gutters, blowing snow and other sundry everyday tasks. Let’s just say these are not the kind of shoes that the wife enjoys seeing on my feet. Certainly not in any fashion sense, as she makes me keep them in the garage, maybe for the stench they engender or the look. I can live with that.
I no sooner parked my car than a large group of people approached with large smiles. One smiling woman opened the passenger door and others opened the back doors. A smiling friendly man opened the driver’s side door. Unusual service I thought to myself but the people seemed friendly enough so I said nothing. Maybe they just wanted to show me their new shoes. They climbed in my car uninvited. I found that to be irksome but politely ignored it. After all, I was not seeking a conflict. I get enough of that in my daily life already.
On first glance, the shoes were nice to look at. Attractive packaging, nicely made, wonderfully shined. The style of the shoe was sort of like those dressy soft looking boots that go up your shin to just below the knee. It was a woman’s style and I had seen my wife in a similar type and fashion, so I was interested. If it wasn’t for the oddness of the situation, I might have considered this a lucky find but the circumstances definitely had me nervous.
I asked myself, why would all these people jump into my car to buy these boots. Sure, the boots looked nice and the price tag seemed low but normally they would at least wait until you got into the store before they tried to sell you something. This kind of pressure buying always makes me suspicious. Then too, why only try to sell me this one type of boots? They stood to do better if I bought boots for the whole family rather than just one person.
As I looked and studied the boots closer, I noticed they were much to narrow in the width for my wife. She would never get her feet in there no matter how low the price or how attractive the style. Now knowing how woman think, she would buy the boots for my daughter even though they were too large for her and then save them, waiting for her to grow into them.
I always found this concept to be particularly silly because they would just sit around taking up space or gathering dust until my wife decided to house clean at some future date. They would end up being given away or in some yard sale long before my daughter would ever use them. To my male frame of mind, this always seemed quite wasteful to me, but it is normal for a man to want peace in his house after fighting the world each day for survival. One does get tired of fighting.
I usually say nothing when she does this. Sometimes you have to pick your battles and compromise. People these days seem so angry and aggressive. The squeaky noisy wheel gets the grease they say. This is true, but I am of the concept that this also causes more friction than most situations are worth. I pick those fights where I feel I have something to gain or I have a chance to win with minimal waste of time, resource, or emotional baggage after the fact. Sun Tzu said it best; some conflicts should never be engaged, they should be bypassed.
I tried to tell these people that I didn’t want this particular pair of shoes. They were not right for anyone in my family no matter what the price tag or sparkling qualities. Even if they were free, it would do me no good to buy them and perhaps they should give these shoes to someone who could use them more efficiently. I could find no possible use for a pair of shoes of this type.
You would have thought I was the nastiest guy in the world. How dare I criticize these marvelous and low cost shoes? I should be grateful and see the unique qualities of this article of apparel. Why, it could change my life! The more I try to tell them that I would rather have a different pair of shoes the angrier and more persistent they became that I should take them, now. Soon their many voices drowned out my voice. No one really listened to my protests. In their minds I was going to take those shoes or else!
Finally, in disgust I ordered the screaming, insulting, irritating people out of my car! Reluctantly they complied but the threats and comments continued unabated as I locked the doors and rolled up the windows. I was finally able to pull the car out of the screaming mob of angry, fist waving, cursing and insulting clerks and raced away with the threats an imprecations following me down the road.
This incident troubled me deeply and I thought carefully as I proceeded home. It seemed to me that everyone has an opinion these days and feels they have a right to exercise it. Like most thing it can be good or bad depending on how it’s used! It’s a bad thing when I find out that they think I just have to share the same opinion when it doesn’t fit my lifestyle or experience. A wise man once said, “Of course everyone is entitled to have an opinion, but I find it irritating that you seem to feel that you have share it with everybody, especially at your intelligence level”. I try not to offer my opinion unless asked.
Everyone likes new things and I have heard that change is a good thing. To my way of thinking, not ALL change is a good thing. When my bosses were telling me how great a thing change was during the last euphemism called ‘reorganization’, to justify changes which they agreed made no sense but would be worked out later. I blithely stated that while Genghis Khan and his friends brought change; it was not the type that most people thought was superior, useful or even workable. Not all change is beneficial, especially when not studied carefully first, but is fostered by a wave of emotion.
I look at the latest election with a lot of distrust and a lot of common sense advice floats past my thoughts. Never trust a salesman that pushes too much and tells you that you have to have this ‘something’ you think you don’t need. Especially don’t trust salesman that threaten you with all kinds of consequences if you don’t buy, even if it has a money back guarantee, they’ll never honor it once they get your money. We’ve all been down that road of fine print to many times.
Never judge a shoe by its looks. You have to try it out and walk around in it a bit and check the fit. If they won’t let you examine the shoe or check it out, it’s not the kind of shoe you want or need. Looks aren’t everything. Comfort and usability is at least as important.
It’s not a bargain or a savings to pay money for something you will never get any value from in good old usage. No matter how much the clerk tells you what a prize this is and how much you will save, it’s not a real bargain. It doesn’t make me a hatemonger or racist, it makes you a rude, arrogant, opinionated bore with all the empathy of a brick through a plate glass window.
On the other foot to be fair, I remember many years ago going into the Army. They promised me free boots amongst other things. The boots were real and I got a lot of use out of them in some of the nastiest situations of my life. I’m not very enthusiastic about them to this day but they were the best I had in the job I was doing. The style, fit and comfort level were abysmal but it all took second place to the fact that it was all the CHOICE I had. Sometimes you have to take things knowing that FREE isn’t always what it’s cracked up to be either.
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