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Post by Crimson D on Jun 20, 2008 6:28:13 GMT -5
Braddoc: They proved the magic bullet theory. It was on history channel.
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Post by Braddoc on Jun 20, 2008 7:02:37 GMT -5
Really? Hmm..we can't say I know that, didn't saw the show..plus I have the history television channel (Canada's historical channel), and right now they're more into showing show about military stuff (like dogfights and Tanks! and such) and of course about Canadian involvement in WW1/WW2/Korea than about the assassination of a foreign leader of state.
But I am curious on how they managed to dothat..the bullet went 'round the bones or something?
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Post by Crimson D on Jun 20, 2008 7:09:02 GMT -5
It was a 1 in a 1,000,000,000 shot they said. What the bullet did was it bounced off of the bones inside the body. How they proved is kinda foggy this was years ago i saw it. They did all the computing and physics behind it. Maybe you can find a torrent or something youtube.
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Post by Braddoc on Jun 20, 2008 7:14:18 GMT -5
Of course, this one shot no one's never gonna see again..I bet they were aiming for Jackie Kennedy, but oh no! Damn lucky (dare say impossible) shot happened..I bet those marksmen are feeling bad now..if they all didn't die from cancer 1-2 years after...
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Post by Crimson D on Jun 20, 2008 7:56:33 GMT -5
Miracle shots happen. A few years back when we were shooting pellet guns (something i have little skill in) I thought to myself "It would be funny as hell if i shot the cap off that 2 liter." Next shot I did it. I laughed so hard. it was a perfect shot! The lid went in the air and the pop bottle barely even moved.
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Post by Braddoc on Jun 20, 2008 8:03:50 GMT -5
Hmm...there's a diffrence between 'miracle shot' as you put it and just 'good aiming'...shooting a cap off a bottle's not quite the same as a bullet flying around and hitting 2 people in multiple locations.
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Post by Crimson D on Jun 20, 2008 12:10:09 GMT -5
Single bullet theory is single bullet fact. Oswald shot JFK not once, but TWICE. Here's the clip I was telling you about. I made some good data search roles today. it took me almost 2 hours to find. (I might have used some karma too) What Really Happened at Dealey PlazaAnd before you jump me, remember i was disputing "the magic bullet" not the number of times he was shot. I was wrong about the bullet bouncing off bones though.
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Post by Braddoc on Jun 20, 2008 12:53:14 GMT -5
Well, no sound from my computer at work. so I'll look at it this evneing
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Post by wolflet59 on Jun 22, 2008 7:29:31 GMT -5
Negativity..
My game posts tend to positive or in character - but Pelch is rightfully cheesd off with out of game comments which I send as personals to him. Rarely do they seep out into the boards - when they do they are not meant to poison the atmosphere. I can see why purile quips can damage a hard-worked and well crafted game. There is a lot of whinging and teddy out of the pram criticisms and he must be fed up to the back teeth with them. Pelch has held up a mirror and I dont like what I see. That's a sharp dose of reality.
I think you put a huge amount of time and effort into the games, the background and execution of them. Keeping a bundle of storylines going which continue to explore and progress, challenging players and opinions.
Keep up the good work! Thousands of hits cant be wrong - they are here for the entertainment interest ideas and because they like it.
Wolflet
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Post by Braddoc on Jun 23, 2008 7:53:48 GMT -5
I'm more curious about what's your idea of a 'change in attitude' that you stated in your last paragraph Pelch. We don't see everything, some of it like Wolf said was behind the veil of Private messages. But, there must be some 'public' examples you can give out.
One thing hunting a boomquish...Another hunting one without even knowing what the blazes a boomquish is.
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Post by The Great Krass on Sept 8, 2008 6:50:05 GMT -5
114,OOO Beers Hijacked
MISSISSAUGA, UCAS—Two tractor-trailers carrying 70,000 cans and 44,000 bottles of Moosehead Lager were stolen from a transport company’s facility in Mississauga, Ontario. The retail value of the load is 200,000 NuYen.
This is the second time in three years that Moosehead has been hit with a major beer heist. In August 2061, a truck containing 50,000 cans of Moosehead Lager bound for Mexico was stolen. Only 14,000 of the cans were ever found.
Ronilion has struck again.
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Post by The GREAT Krass on Sept 10, 2008 7:09:23 GMT -5
Krass, "Given the way the elections are going this year people have been telling me in my mail that it's a good time to add a woman to my ticket. If I get 'Mary Poppins' I'd have a bulldog in lipstick. They think she'll appeal to my radical conservative element, like Krondax."
Patterson, "So who else do you have in mind? Queenie Quicklips? She'd bring out the pron vote. Given how the pron industry loves Democrats it should be a sure winner for you."
Drassel laughs, "That would put the VICE in Vice President."
Pelch, "If you plan to support your sagging ticket it looks like you need to select someone that appeals to the voters. Eon has the..", looks at Eon cautiously, "...Charisma that the job requires. JoAnne would be the safer choice as she has the organizational and governmental skills without being pushy. She's less likely to assassinate you on a hour to hour basis. Eon is more likely to stuff you UP the Donkey than pose next you and it giving you a hug or a peck on the cheek."
Fatman: "People have concluded that politicians of all parties AND countries or nations seem to inhabit a world apart, governed by self-interest, cynicism, corruption, incompetence, deep contempt for the electorate and an incorrigible instinct to deceive them. Politicians like Krass know this. Which is why they all purport to stand on a platform of 'change'. But change from what to what, precisely? Unless there's a clear answer, 'change' becomes a pointless soundbite which risks creating an impression of yet more political sleight of hand."
Krass, "So Fatman, you're saying that I don't need to change. I just need to mouth the words. That pretty much agrees with what I think. Why should I give Eon the opportunity to use more than the bolt cutters? No woman on the ticket this year. I'm going to stick with what works. Honest Government."
Eon, "Like all politicians you're a slimeball but you're the only politician that actually admits it." She shrugs, "Besides the VP doesn't do anything unless the other person kicks. Most of the time they do idiot stuff and are told to shut up because their so clueless! That's why I think all those Republicans think McCain will actually be more electable now that he has Palin. She won't get to do diddly."
Krass, "That's my strength. Everybody knows enough not to come to me after the election and ask me about all the promises I made. Like a Jihadi they know I'm lying and I'll tell them anything just to get elected. I'm a man ahead of my time."
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Post by Pelch Gobwit on Sept 11, 2008 1:11:25 GMT -5
Braddoc wrote: "I'm more curious about what's your idea of a 'change in attitude' that you stated in your last paragraph Pelch. We don't see everything, some of it like Wolf said was behind the veil of Private messages. But, there must be some 'public' examples you can give out. "
Pelch, "This is the first opportunity I have had to check back. I won't make excuses or explain why at this time. You asked me what I meant about 'change in attitude'. I'll try to keep it short but it covers quite a bit of area.
First there was the treatment of guests. I made that pretty clear. It was my MAJOR issue but not my ONLY one. This leads into my next point. It is obvious we are NOT making our visitors and guests feel welcome. When that happens you lose word of mouth advertising that brings people here. It's people, ideas, viewpoints and humor that makes a site like this successful or unsuccessful. Let's say that welcome of visitors is sadly lacking.
Second I have noticed that player responses have pretty much become nil. I don't mind HELPING a player out but I do begin to suspect an attitude problem when I'm having to CONSISTENTLY make EVERYONES move for them. As I mentioned to Wolflet, when I do that I might just as well go write a book. If even the players are not supporting the games then it seems reasonable to me that my services as a GM and Moderator are NOT required. It appeared to me it would be easier to wipe the room and save the Admins the trouble of maintaining a lot of old files. So one of the things I watched for was to see IF the players would continue the room six game. If they did not then they were only there for what? To read a story I wrote? Loyalty? Perhaps, but it certainly is NOT gaming where involvement is a must. Attitude.
So 'change in attitude'. When I see the interest, respect, tolerance, cooperation, and FUN. Then I might return. Although from where I currently sit I may be dead before that happens. Now, I have given everyone some time to think and reflect and sort things out. As of yet I have seen no signs that the attitudes have changed.
Braddoc and I have been keeping in touch during this time, but it is not HIS attitude I have trouble with. He does try, he's just overworked. For others? I would seriously suggest you all look at where you are and what you want, then decide what kind of commitment you want to make instead of going through the motions."
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Post by Braddoc on Sept 11, 2008 18:17:01 GMT -5
Well then..
first good to see you amongst us again Pelch.
Second..yes..I admit getting new players in a game (or current players to haul up and post in your case Pelch), thought it seems at least in room 5, that we don't get them involved..and maybe they are having trouble posting when for example, the 'regulars' do something the new player feels like the fifth wheel..he doesn't know the others well (either player wise or character wise) so that might drop interest. There's also characters as such: I know Four-Eyes hates elves (well, who followed the games and didn't figured that out yet, now you know), so in the case of No5, his character animosity versus him being perceived as a Poser (dus 'traitor' to his own race) and somewhat roughly ordered around might have killed it.
I did warn the player though..and it seems other RL problems happen whit him.
So yes, the current players must 'help' the new ones to get into it: not everyone got the same level of PbP experience and RPG playing experience and so on and so fort, so it must be a "team effort"....Of course, sometimes it's harder than some, like with Tranq for example; she is a competent adept, but since she is also a SURGE, that will bring attention, if not downright hostility form others in the world, which limits her 'playing field', but we're working on that right now.
It's a 2 way street really; both parties must get into it so that achievement can be realized.
I know in the case of Room6, some are busy alot and such..but I figured in that case, what's a post or Pm saying they'll be gone for a while?
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Post by Pelch Gobwit on Sept 11, 2008 18:46:39 GMT -5
Pelch, "Thanks for the welcome back, my friend. I'm still heavy on the pain killers as you already know and maybe it just makes me tend to a greater condition of the nastiness. I'm not blaming everything on the old players although as you say they are guilty of a major part of what I have seen. It isn't like we haven't created enough background and situations to give people a good idea of what is involved. All it takes is a WILLINGNESS to learn some new ideas."
"The interesting thing is that Fatman told me that when you do get a new player in that really is interested in improving their game many times they can OUT DO the older players. It has to do with fresh ideas and viewpoints. The older players have the advantage of familiarity with the game. They can help the players, but it does them no good to move the new players around if the new player puts nothing into it. So as we can see it does get complex."
"First you have to try to actually get a new person to look at our games. The Quotefile was good for that. Once they are interested then you have to get them quickly situated in a game. Get them involved and working quickly. Finally, you give them the basics and then the player has to have the willingness to perform and continue to perform no matter what CHARACTER set backs they encounter. Few people do that. All through this process is the determination of the player to GET INVOLVED AND TRY. The funny thing is that most new players see one interesting situation, they get involved for THAT situation and then are clueless to continue if their flicker of a light bulb doesn't work out. They give up TOO easily. Sometimes the timing of their idea was wrong or it needed a minor modification to work. They quit to easily."
"So it isn't that you don't get them involved, it's that they CHOOSE not to get involved in any meaningful way. Now I could come out here and keep writing about the Trials and Tribulations of Pelch Gobwit; everyone's amusement, and even make it interesting, humorous, and enjoyable reading all by myself just using NPC's to give me depth, but I came to game and it appears our people are not REALLY ready to do that."
"So in short when some professional players want to really game, win or lose then they can let us know by actually doing it for a bit so I know they're the real thing. So don't go blaming yourself, you did more on here than any half dozen of us. It's not your fault that others are not up to your standard of professionalism."
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