Post by Mr. Johnson on Dec 13, 2005 8:51:50 GMT -5
A while back I had replaced the need for Karma (since I was allowing everyone to make any character they wanted) with Reputation, something that I could have a script created for so i wouldnt have to constantly adjust members statistics. This also removed the possibility for someone to go "NO FAIR.. HE GOT 50 KARMA WHEN EVERYONE ELSE GOT 2!!" plus, Karma on the character sheet can be adjusted by the poster, Reputation can ONLY be adjusted by me.. so, keep it the way it is? or switch back to the Karma system.
I dont know what the old system was like... I simply worked around it by cutting and pasting all of the players characters into a post I made so they could not modify them. If I have to give them karma or reputation at some point in the future I will let them tell me how they desire to modify there characters and I can modify the post. If someone new comes along and someone else quits I can just add there character to the pile I figured... Heh I also work with the theory I can do whatever I want if I am the poor guy willing to run the game hehe poor GMs have to do all the work so they should get alot of latitude.. Which I know you believe also MR J. becuase you have been super helpful.
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Post by Mr. Johnson on Dec 13, 2005 21:22:49 GMT -5
once again that creates more work for you than you should really have to do.. and after your camapign if "joe" desides to go to another GMs campaign with the same character.. whats to keep modifications from happening then.. PLUS ever play with a Golden GM? they are the GMs that feel that 20 Karma for stealing the old ladys mail nextdoor is justifiable.. removing Karma and GMs PMin me with Rep awards remove the risk of hassels and arguements...
If you r running rep . why not karma ? run it the same as you do the rep awards . Any char change that way would have to be changed by / or ok through you . So you can deduct the karma / or rep we decide to use . But that could be a lot more work for you.
i say no to karma, but that does bring up one question, lif say, a group manages to pull a stunt like krass and them did, as in totally messing up the gm's trap by either A, quick thinking, or B, screweing up royally, and therefore missing the nasty trap if there is one, and still come out smelling like roses, do they get extra rep,, or how would it work:?
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Why not have both rep and karma, the 4th edition touches on reputation for the characters...
As for a character that has recieved 20 karma or 30 karma, if everyone else on the team has only had 5 I would just refuse the character that had 30 karma and look for another runner to balance the group.
Another point, when this board gets really large which I hope it does.. if you have 200 people activly running how are you going to manage such a thing? You should probably just let the players and DMs police themselves and have some kind of thing like Reputaion that the GMs reward players with.. So if the player not the character has a high rep then you know he has played in alot of games and done well.
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Post by Mr. Johnson on Dec 14, 2005 23:43:54 GMT -5
which is my point...
by adding back Karma, I will have to request 2 people to become my "Character Sheet Specialists" or something, meaning all members would have to PM their character to one of these 2 people, they will look it over to make sure its built legit, then post it themselves and I would have to remove everyones ability to edit (cept for those 2 or any of the higher ups) I removed Karma to remove the risk of a fight ex: Bob: Im gonna do a double backflip and handstand kick that guy in the head GM: OK roll Bob: ok.. I have a skill of 7 in it James: no.. you only had a 4 in that skill yesterday Bob: no I didnt, ive always had that GM: wait a min bob.. I dont remember that stat being that high Bob: well it was, its been that way forever then the drama takes place and arguements fly around...now granted theres nothing to really prevent a member right now from modifying their character.. but if they can build whatever they want cause they dont get Karma as a boosting reward.. then it wont cause a scene.
Right now, theres really no work involved with having Rep as the only stat.. until awards are handed out to characters, and even then all I would be doing is adding numbers to the profiles... if we do the Karma system, it will mean more work for me and the Corps to make sure that the adjustments are correct, make sure this, make sure that subtract, add, divide, multiply, and keep making modifications to people profiles cause they were gonna boost that stat, but now 2 days later they wanna do this, or they have a 1/2 point of karma and wanna do that.. if thats what the members here want, I will oblige of course.
Post by phantom5656 on Dec 15, 2005 1:51:04 GMT -5
Well, maybe you can make it so that you only have a certain time limit on when you can adjust stats using karma, as in you can only edit stats 2-3 days before/after a run. Also, you could also give GMs a temporary right to modify posts, so the players will go through the GM to change char stats, that way, you have less work, players cant change change stats in middle of runs, and GMs know that player stats will be constant throughout the run. Of course, this is all assuming you bring back karma..... If not, then it's no biggie. Not being able to improve your char is a bit restricting, but it can also be challengin, i guess.....
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Post by Mr. Johnson on Dec 15, 2005 7:55:56 GMT -5
jblack: if you look to the left youll see an area that says "RPG Stats" under it says [click to show] click that and your numbers will appear..
Phantom: Its still more work for me and others here in the long run.. there are 38 (+-) characters posted on this site, out of 74 members, since the poll about how many campains one member will be able to participate at a time is going to be 2, this is a potential for 148 characters. now, since not all 74 members are posting regularly, lets just make it realistic and say there are 40 RPCharacters active on the site in their own campaigns, 20 of them are in campaigns, the other 20 are waiting to join a campaign, in the meantime they are PMing mods (or GMs) back and forth upgrading, waiting to be upgraded, makeing notes and changes OH and lets not forget that not everybody here stops by every single day.. I can compile a list of the handful of members that are here daily.. how long before I start getting PMs about joe shmoe not being on for the past 4 days and they want their char modified, bob jones made a modification but the GM he asked to modify his character modified the wrong thing, and his time limits up.. Origionally, members were suppose to post ALL their characters in ONE area, then when they joined campaigns, Myself or a Corp would move their posted characters into the gamerooms, "post your char in the UGR" there are characters on the site that have never seen the UGR... this was just a simple request.. how long before the Karma thing starts a fight? as I said tho, im just posting my thoughts about what could[/b][/u] happen, maybe it wont, perhaps adding Karma back in will create a Utopia here and we will all build a campfire and sing kum-by-ya while holding hands... im just trying to point out the negative effects that passing this rulecould[/b][/u] cause
Not being able to improve your char is a bit restricting, but it can also be challengin, i guess.....
never said you cant improve on your character, you can do anything you want (for now at least) for improvements (at reasonable times).. it all boils down to GMs descretion in the end.. GM says no.. then thats that..
yeah, but if in a run, you get in a high speed chase with 10 cop cars after you, driving 100 mph in a school zone, shooting and drving over everything that's in your way and ending up blowing an highway overpass during rush hour, people just might know you for that instead of "he's good with computers"
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